by Hartford Gongaware
I find myself at China #1 in Effingham County in Georgia – Methingham, so-called by its Sherriff – where the Southern-fried Ginger Chicken is no less addictive than methaphetamine and, presumably, not so conducive of delusions and paranoia and the variety of psychotic behaviors. Meth addicts fill the jails in Effingham County these days, and Effingham County is itself a lab of sorts, a place where the “people that’s from there” and sprawling, urban refugees don’t yet know what to make of one another.I am there to meet Larry Wilson – Mr. Larry. He is a woodsman, sixty-five years old and, like me, he’s a swamp person. He used to make moonshine in the swamps he grew up in, and he sold it to the Sherriff – of which county he never would tell me. I didn’t ask.Our lunch is a quiet one. Given our subject, we’re not particularly comfortable sitting there among the workaday customers. We talk only briefly about a gentleman named Mr. Tootle, who was a great moonshiner, using only copper and wood parts to his still, and never gas. He had a profound influence on Mr. Larry’s career.After our buffet lunch of Chinese foods, we decamp for the Wilder Tract. Out Highway 21, I follow Mr. Larry past the prison and past an unchained gang of prisoners whacking at weeds on the frontage. Effingham County is a place of piney woods and cypress swamp bottoms, accessed by dirt roads, and down one of these I mirror Mr. Larry’s swerve, avoiding the ruts of it that way. Amid those woods, alongside of a duck pond, in an “ol’ cabin ‘bout run down,” our conversation begins in earnest:GUTFIRE!: “Well, Mr. Larry, I appreciate your taking the time to talk to me. I understand you’re the man I need to talk to.”MR. LARRY: (laughing) “I have made some moonshine, but it wasn’t to make a living. It was just to do something. It’s just a little extra money and, I don’t know, maybe you beat the government a little bit.”GUTFIRE!: “Right, Right. Interesting that, because it’s a tradition that goes back to – George Washington was a distiller himself. He had a distillery right there on Mount Vernon. Of course, right about there is when they began with the taxes, but it’s an American tradition in its way.”MR. LARRY: “That’s right. At one time, a lot of what I made, the Sherriff bought it. He would want it run to 110 proof – and then put it into a charter keg, and you would get about 102, 103 proof out once you chartered it.”GUTFIRE!: “What’s a charter keg?”MR. LARRY: “A charter keg is burned on the inside, and then you put the moonshine in it, and it’ll turn it red, just like your other whiskeys. Only thing, you’ll get 101 to 103 proof of good shine out of it – because they want the stuff that was made good and not groundhog made. Because the groundhog: it was those big stills that you just cook the whole batch and everything and they might throw car batteries in it and stuff like that.”GUTFIRE!: “And it’s left open right?”MR. LARRY: “Right. Yeah. Rats, everything get in it, they cook rats, anything in it, and that wasn’t what Judges wanted.”GUTFIRE!: “The Judge wanted the good stuff.”MR. LARRY: “That’s right, the Judge, he wanted the good stuff.”GUTFIRE! : “And so you were carrying it to the courthouse?”MR. LARRY: “Sometimes you would carry it there.”GUTFIRE!: “How would you disguise it, going to the courthouse?”MR. LARRY: “You would just go at night, and there would be one person there to meet you and get it.”GUTFIRE!: “The Judge or whoever?”MR. LARRY: “Well, the Judge never – he never – he didn’t know that I knew, the Judge didn’t. He wouldn’t have liked that. I did. I knew it, but he didn’t know I knew it. The Sherriff’d meet me – now, the Sherriff passed away now – he was a… a good friend of mine. He was a good friend of mine.”GUTFIRE!: “So, I want to back up a little bit. How did you get started making moonshine?”MR. LARRY: “Well, there was this man – Mr. Tootle – I watched him do it and I just… wanted to do it. You know, it was just something to do. He would go out there and make it, and I know… there were two families—and pretty well thought of, you know, highly thought of families in the neighborhood—come out ‘ere and set while it were running and talk, you know, just like we was on a Sunday afternoon… and nothing would happen, and when it got ready, some of ‘em, they tasted it…”GUTFIRE!: “Take me through your process… you’re on a river? In the swamp a little bit?”MR. LARRY: “Altamaha. Altamaha Swamp.”GUTFIRE!: “And you had a creek that was your particular…”MR. LARRY: “I would dig a well not far from a creek or slough, where we could get water from there, too.”GUTFIRE!: “Because probably the revenuers are looking for the creeks, right?”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, they followed the creeks, but there were people they wanted. And they were after the big ones, really. Like I was telling you about the friend, Mr. Tootle, the revenuers said they would catch him, and they finally did. He was 68 when they caught him. He was 68 when they caught him, so they finally did get him. They gave him probation.”GUTFIRE!: “So – you would go out there, dig a well, and then what?”MR. LARRY: “I would always use a four-barrel still, and I’d run twelve barrels of mash, and what I used is scratch feed, corn and rye. Twelve barrels of mash: that would be three charges. You run four barrels of mash at a time, it was about a 110 gallon pot and it cook out ‘bout 13 gallons. I’d run that off and set it back up, and if it was summertime, ‘bout ever three days you had to run it, and if you had that many charges you could run everyday, you know, set up to where you run it ‘bout two hours a day… but it was work taking the gas cylinders in and the sugar in and everything. The initial carrying in there to get it breaked-in was a lot of work, and then after that, you’d have to take the sugar in – and I took in by boat.”GUTFIRE!: “How much sugar are you buying?”MR. LARRY: “I was puttin’ thirty pounds in a barrel.”GUTFIRE!: “Yeah? That’s 120 pounds of sugar. So at the grocery store, Winn-Dixie, they’re wondering what you’re up to?”MR. LARRY: “Well, when you… at one time it got to where you couldn’t do it. You had to sign for it.”GUTFIRE!: “For sugar?
MR. LARRY: “For sugar. Yeah. If you bought over 20 pounds, you had to sign for it… but we had a store that we didn’t have to sign for, and he had a big warehouse and you could go in ‘ere and it be stacked all the way through this warehouse, this big room back there, and then you might go back a week later and they wouldn’t be but one little stack over in the corner. You go back another week and the whole building be full.”GUTFIRE!: “So how old were you when you were making it?”MR. LARRY: “I was in my twenties. They’s too much work to do it if you’re much older. It had a lot of work to it. Hard work – you had to carry all the stuff in. You get one of those 100 pound gas cylinders, is a lot to tote.”GUTFIRE!: “That’s a lot of work for 13 gallons.”MR. LARRY: “Yup, it is.”GUTFIRE!: “So these guys that are making a living off of it, that’s quite an operation.”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, it is. They ran a lot. Some people made lots of money off of it. I mean it was, at one time—and right now!—if somebody were makin’ it, they big money in it now. It’s bringing 80 dollars a gallon!”GUTFIRE!: “80 dollars a gallon?”MR. LARRY: “Good shine is 80 dollars a gallon.”GUTFIRE!: “That’s ridiculous.”MR. LARRY: “You can buy Crown for that.”GUTFIRE!: “I know.”MR. LARRY: “But they want the shine. They want the shine.”GUTFIRE! “And all you’re doing is sugar and corn…”MR. LARRY: “When I was making it, you’d get five dollars. Five dollars.”GUTFIRE!: “80 dollars a gallon, man. So somebody’s makin’ it out there…”MR. LARRY: “They somebody makin’ it, I promise you.”GUTFIRE!: “So, summer was the big, big time of year, because that’s when you could do it, and the corn’s coming in?”MR. LARRY: “Right. Yes. Ah, well, the corn didn’t matter, but it just: it worked off faster. If it was real cold, it just didn’t work off as fast without putting a lot of yeast and, and sometime it was easier to scorch if you put a lot of yeast in.”GUTFIRE!: “It’s quite a science to it.”MR. LARRY: “Well, yeast to make it work off. You know, it makes it work faster, like your wine or anything. It’ll work faster with yeast and… but I just rather not put it.”GUTFIRE!: “Because it would mess with the taste?”MR. LARRY: “Yeah. I just… I didn’t like it quite as good. But see: moonshine is not anything but steam. There’s no beer that comes in there. ‘Cause you run a pipe from your pot to the top of your doublin’ barrel. You run it in the top of each side and fill that doubling barrel with steam – and then it pushes it out the other side, and then you got a condenser that’s got rope in it, and when that steam hits that rope, it turn to—it liquefies, and it runs out that—around and around—and coolin’ when it’s goin’ and when it comes out it’s cool. And if you run it and it’s hot – if it’s hot to your finger, it’ll taste hot – it don’t matter if you put it on ice, it’ll still taste hot.”GUTFIRE!: “That’s like – uh – that’s like when you burn popcorn. You burn one piece of popcorn and the whole thing is ruined.”MR. LARRY: “It will taste hot.”GUTFIRE!: “That’s right. Alright, so I get it now. I get the technique. Did you use an—I mean, you taste moonshine and sometimes it tastes like peaches or whatever—”MR. LARRY: “—they put stuff in it to do that. If you put peach peelin’s or peaches in it, once you cook it, it’ll have the taste. But I never done that, and the only thing I did do was put cherry. I have had put cherry in it. We’d buy jugs, gallon jugs – you get ‘em from the Tastee-Freez or somethin’, and sometimes I’d pick up a gallon of cherry while I was there, and somebody would want some with cherry, and, man, they’d like it…”GUTFIRE!: “From the Tastee-Freez?”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, that’s where you’d get the jugs. Empty gallon jugs.”GUTFIRE!: “Okay. Gotcha. So what’s with the car batteries?”MR. LARRY: “Make it work off faster.”GUTFIRE! : “Really? And it’s all just about…”MR. LARRY: “They don’t care. They just don’t care. You know, those people don’t care about anybody. Just… they out for the dollar.”GUTFIRE! : “And the car batteries because of the acid?”MR. LARRY: “Yeah. That would make it work off faster.”GUTFIRE!: ”That’s crazy. That’s crazy… and so… the speed because a) you got to sell a certain amount to cover your costs and also b) because you don’t want to be there any longer than you have to and get caught.”MR. LARRY: “Right. And they just don’t care about anybody. If you do that – you don’t care about anyone, and that’s the one that the revenuers’ after. And people would turn ‘em in if they knew ‘em, too!”GUTFIRE!: “Why rats? The rats cause it to burn off faster, too?”MR. LARRY: “No, the rats just get in there. They would have it open to where the rats could just get in it.”GUTFIRE!: “Right. Of course… and… ah… that’s disgusting.”MR. LARRY: “It is. Mr. Tootle, he’d have it to where nothing couldn’t get in ‘em. Wasn’t nothing get in there. And I… I done the same… I didn’t want rats. And ‘coons or whatever. I didn’t want anything in there.”MR. LARRY: “I never made it big. I never made a lot.”GUTFIRE!: “Well, that wasn’t your goal.”
MR. LARRY: “It wasn’t. I know, one time, I had a little still – little four barrel. And I was out there, and it was real cold. I went out there and the revenuers come in and he had a – uh, Bohine – he had a son that was supposed to be bad news, now. Said he’d just catch you. Said you wouldn’t outrun him. You couldn’t get away from him. And I was on a creek—”GUTFIRE!: “This was the son?”MR. LARRY: “This was the son—you couldn’t—he was just fast. You know, a lot of moonshiners will just take off and outrun the… but you couldn’t outrun him. He was just too fast. He’d catch you. And I was side of a creek there – COLD! Man it was cold – so, when they come, I left. I jumped down side of the creek and then went and jumped across the creek. Put one foot in the water and went across the creek. But I knew where to cross it, see, and when he saw me out there, he come runnin’ and he run off this bank ‘bout this high off into the creek – ‘cause it were just before dark – he ran off into the creek, and when I hear him hit the creek I knew it was over then. He didn’t catch me. And so I quit for a long time and then I… some people wanted some and I set back up to make ‘em some.GUTFIRE!: “Because you lost your equipment and all that stuff.”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, but it didn’t matter. I was just tired of it.”GUTFIRE!: “And that was your one encounter with the revenuers?”MR. LARRY: “That’s right. And now, see, back when I was doing it, you couldn’t have any. Three drops would be too much. If they could get any out of a jug or something, they could make a case against you. And when you were makin’ shine, see, you didn’t have to worry too much until you caught that first batch and you poured it up. Once you done that, that’s when they would come in. ‘Cause what they want to do is get you for manufacturing, not attempt. If you was at a still, they wasn’t a lot to it, but if you was manufacturing moonshine…”GUTFIRE!: “Now, I’ve heard, a lot of times, the bigger guys would pay people to sit the still, right?”MR. LARRY: “Right. They would. It would be watched. They wouldn’t be right there, but they would be around it, watchin’ – be around so if anybody come – you know, you investin’ a lot, the bigger ones. You got a lot invested…. Your bigger ones, you got to be on a creek where you could pump water, ‘cause it took so much water to cool it, and they’d have little engines there – little pumps – and they’d build mufflers for them and they might have mufflers all stretched everywhere, and that engine be running, you can’t hardly hear it.”GUTFIRE!: “Interesting: there’s a lot of technicalities with it, huh?”MR. LARRY: “Yeah. Sometime, yeah. They might run it through a radiator to cool it, a truck radiator. A truck radiator just run—it cools it—but it don’t condense it, now. That way you get more out of it, but it’s running through a radiator and, you know, there ain’t no way you can clean a radiator to where you can drink stuff out of it.GUTFIRE!: “That’s where you go blind.”MR. LARRY: “Yeah. And sometime they liable to have four radiators sitting there running, and—”GUTFIRE!: “—and that’s the bad stuff.”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, that’s the bad stuff.”MR. LARRY: “But they said now, they could fly over it with a plane, and it’d be heat waves coming up from it. You know, ‘specially in the morning time, it’d be steam coming up, ‘cause you’d got everything hot. In the morning there’d be steam coming up from it, where they could spot it. You’d have it, you know, under trees and stuff, kind of where they couldn’t see it, but they’d find that steam and know it was there.”GUTFIRE!: “And so, was there any kind of territorial situation, where you didn’t want to get in the way of the “big ones” as you say, who were controlling the trade?MR. LARRY: “Oh yeah, you didn’t want to go there. You didn’t want to be around them because they were—they were bad apples, now. The little ones, you didn’t have to worry about them too much, but the bigger ones, they would hurt you and they was in the business for blood or whatever, so.”GUTFIRE!: “What do you mean by ‘blood’?”MR. LARRY: “You know. They would take you out if you mess with ‘em, I think. I mean, they talked like it anyway, and you just knew not to be around ‘em.”GUTFIRE!: “Do you know anyone who got taken out?”MR. LARRY: “No. But I’d hear a lot about it. ‘Cause if you into it some, the circle goes around. You know: like where you get sugar and where you get gas and everything. And, at one time, that’s what put the moonshiners out of business was sugar prices. Yeah, sugar prices shot up so high that you couldn’t afford to make it. Because I know one of the revenuers said that it took them… they tried for forty years to get it done, and Dixie Crystal done it in one day.”GUTFIRE!: “Did you know the revenuers when you were making it? Were they local boys generally?”MR. LARRY: “Usually. Now the federal whatn’t but, but the state was. You would have some federal men come in, and they would blow up—I mean they would blow everything—drop some dynamite in it and just blow everything up. And, the state would just chop holes in it, usually they would take it with them, ‘cause they take it and sell the copper. Or… bend it back together and set up a still of their own. I don’t know… they could have done that… you knew the revenuers and the Sherriff, the Sherriff would have a lot to do with it. And… so.”GUTFIRE!: “Right, because the Sherriff would have to serve a warrant for the revenuers to go on the property, and so generally the property owners knew they were coming before the revenuers did.”MR. LARRY: “That’s right, and sometimes it would be on a man’s property and he didn’t even know it was there, you know? Same thing with, like, growin’ marijuana now. They’ll have it on a lot of people’s property, and especially if it’s big land owners. They grow a lot on it, if it’s something that isn’t checked real often.”GUTFIRE!: “Right. Right. That’s a real important deal… you have people: everybody knows what’s going on, and you can probably figure out where it’s going on, but it’s almost like a shell game, right? I mean, how invested were the revenuers in—”MR. LARRY: “Well, they knew about how big you was and they wasn’t too worried about it, you know, if you was just making a little—they would catch you!—but you would have to be reported before they ever… I know, for a while, my neighbors up there, I could go out the door, back door at the house, and I could see a light from their still. They had a still back there. But they were just, they were like me – they make some, drank it and for friends to drink and… make up a bunch and you could sell some of it, you know, try to get your money back.”GUTFIRE!: “But you’re just covering your costs. You’re not making a big profit.”MR. LARRY: “You know, nothing like that. Like I was talking about: run 12 gallons to the charge, and you’re gettin’ 5 dollars to the gallon for it. So you’re talking ‘bout 60 bucks… so… you’re not gettin’ rich.”GUTFIRE!: “So you gotta sell 12 gallons… 60 bucks…”MR. LARRY: “That’s not big money is it?”GUTFIRE!: “That’s not big money at all.”MR. LARRY: “But now, if it’d been 80 dollars a gallon, that would been good money, now. And you know – now – it would cost a little more to make it, but not that much more to make it than it did then. Your gas is higher and your sugar, you sugar’s not that much higher than it was then.”GUTFIRE!: “I wouldn’t think so. So when was the price spike? When Dixie Crystals’ price of sugar went up?”MR. LARRY: “In the ‘70s. They had a shortage of, you know, sugar cane. In Florida, they lost a lot of their canes. That caused sugar to go up. And somethin’ happened in Honduras and they lost piles and piles. Some kind of bug or somethin’.”GUTFIRE!: “Fascinating. So, tell me, who made the best shine?”MR. LARRY: “That old man I was talking about.”GUTFIRE!: “Yeah?MR. LARRY: “Mr. Tootle.”GUTFIRE!: “Mr. Tootle.”MR. LARRY: “Made the best. And everybody – everybody would come buy it. Everybody would come—‘cause every time it was the same. It whatn’t—you didn’t get no foolin’s with it. It was just straight, good shine. Every time.”GUTFIRE!: “He sounds like a little bit of a hero. But, how would you distinguish good shine? It doesn’t have that burn, doesn’t taste hot at all—”MR. LARRY: “That’s right… And you could take that, and it burns a blue flame. It’s a pretty blue. That’s when you got it high then. And it gets that bead…the bubbles. That’s the bead. If it don’t hold a bead, it’s not good shine.”GUTFIRE!: “But what makes it… what made Mr. Tootle’s… the best?”
MR. LARRY: “Oh, because the way he ran it. He ran it slow, and he knew how to run it, exactly, and it’s the way he had his mash set up and everything. He used – instead of using corn and rye – he run it off corn meal. But you have to be so particular runnin’ on corn meal… and you would scorch it if you wasn’t very careful. But he: no. He never scorched it. So it was just… it was just good shine.”GUTFIRE!: “Mr. Tootle’s?”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, and he ran it for a long time. He passed away. I reckon ‘bout ten or twelve years ago he passed away… but he would do anything in the world for you. Everybody liked him, you know. Everybody knew he made shine, but didn’t matter. Everybody liked him, and that were the work he done.”GUTFIRE!: “Do people – sounds like people must remember Mr. Tootle fondly.”MR. LARRY: “Oh yeah. Yeah, they do. You never hear nobody say a bad word about him without, you know, some old woman. Maybe a churchgoer. But the people that went out there and sit—that’s Sunday afternoon. They had just got back from church and was out there and, ah, just real nice, you know, religious people. But they didn’t see anything wrong with it. Really they didn’t. Back then, he would sell it, but a kid couldn’t go buy it. A kid could get it maybe, but he couldn’t go buy it. And like, the drugs now, that’s who they tryin’ to push it on is the kids.”GUTFIRE!: “So, we’re really talking about moonshining in the ‘70s. The golden age. The last golden age of moonshine—”MR. LARRY: “—before the sugar went up—“GUTFIRE!: “—before the sugar went up, I got you.”MR. LARRY: “It was a great time. It really was. You had your muscle cars… everybody knew everybody. Everybody respected your land. Most of all, you respected the law. And if your neighbor needed help, you did what you could… But nobody has time for anybody anymore.”GUTFIRE!: “And I guess, when you say you respect the law, you mean because the law was personified by someone you respected. The law was a person you knew and respected.”MR. LARRY: “Right. And we knew to. Because our parents made us respect ‘em. Now, we lost respect for one guy and we done something about it. We voted him out. Because he locked me up – he put me in jail – for ridin’ with another guy speedin’.”GUTFIRE!: “That’s interesting.”MR. LARRY: “Yeah, well, my momma didn’t think so. She got on my case – and got on his case too for lockin’ me up – but got on my case for ridin’ and…”GUTFIRE!: “…and just for speeding?”MR. LARRY: “Just for speeding. That’s all he done. But what had happened. I went over to this guys house – Junior Tootle – which is Mr. Tootle’s son. Okay, I went to his house, and he had just got a ’57 Chevrolet, had three deuces on it, and we got in it, and he told me it run 105 in second gear. I said, ‘Ain’t no way.’ So we went out and we got on the road and run 105 in second gear and backed off, and then the law was all over us. But they thought we had a load of moonshine, is what they thought, ‘cause my car was sittin’ there – they put us in jail and then they broke in the trunk and searched my car. They kept us locked up for about six hours. They got Junior for speeding, and back ‘en a speeding ticket was about – twenty-five dollars at the most – they charged him a hundred and three.”GUTFIRE!: “So… you say people had more respect back then?”MR. LARRY: “They did.”GUTFIRE!: “I guess…I find that surprising. There’s more people around now. So there’s more people nearby to, sort of, police the situation, but …MR. LARRY: “… they still run roughshod over ‘em…. And, well, too, it’s the way the kids is brought up. Just don’t have respect… it’s like my daughter told me one day. She come home from the school she teaches at, and she said, ‘I had a pretty good day today, Daddy.’ I said, ‘You did?’ She said, ‘Yeah, I wasn’t called a son-of-a-bitch today, Daddy.’ Now, can you imagine? At school? She says they cuss ‘em every day. And back then—if you would have done that—they could whip you. They could tear your butt up at school. And then when you got home, you would could count on a bad one when you got home, if you done something like that. But now, when they get home, the parents come cuss the teacher out. So what’s that tellin’ the kid? I can do what I want to. And they tell the teacher: ‘I’ll do what I want to.’ ‘You can’t stop me.’ ‘My momma said’ I could do this, or ‘my momma said’ I could do that. I know I couldn’t be a teacher.”GUTFIRE!: “It’s a different America, isn’t it?”MR. LARRY: “It is… Something else about moonshine: the Sherriff’s elections… Election Day… they would give away moonshine, out for people to vote for. Every place, everywhere you went it was the same. Every poll. They wouldn’t directly give it out, but they would have someone there to give it out. And you know what? A lot of this liquor they were giving out back then was coming from stills they had tore up and they had confiscated the liquor. So one Election Day, it would be right back out ‘ere on the street, the same liquor would.”GUTFIRE!: “That’s a – it’s amazing. It’s like the wild west.”MR. LARRY: “Right! See, you couldn’t buy any on Election Day, ‘cause the stores couldn’t sell any. But out there it just flowed freely. Nobody paid it any attention. And then later, you know, they started. They stopped it. And I’m quite sure it bought votes, ‘cause a lot of ‘em are people that are just drunks.”GUTFIRE!: “Well, as we say, it’s an American tradition, so why not on Election Day?”MR. LARRY: “Well, you know, it was here. And just think of the years and years it was here and how long it lasted before the drugs come in effect. And… moonshine, boy, you had to have it. When you was a kid you had to taste moonshine. It was something about moonshine you had to taste and—“GUTFIRE!: “—it’s like going fast in your car.”MR. LARRY: “Yeah. Yeah, you had to, that’s right. You had to, you had to taste that moonshine. It whatn’t no way out of it. And if you got some you was some-body, you know, when you was a teenager.”GUTFIRE!: “Sure. Sure. Still that’s true… except now you fear it’s drugs… with the methamphetamine. You know, it’s amazing: you used to have to sign for sugar, and now you’ve got to sign for cold medicine. I mean: and just the difference in effect. You see pictures, before and after, and a meth addict two years later, a twenty-six year old looks like a sixty-year old man. Which isn’t to say that moonshine didn’t have its bad effects. I mean, we’ve talked about car batteries. We’ve talked about truck radiators and, you know, that particular subculture.”MR. LARRY: “That’s right—that was—it was terrible. And, you know, a lot of people got sick. Some people died from it! And it was all because somebody didn’t care about anybody and, you know, same as meth. If you makin’ meth now, you know what meth is going to do. And back then: the moonshiners that was doin’ that stuff, all they was wantin’ was the dollar. They didn’t care about any-body. And… but… then you had them few people that did. That’s what was the backbone. It come from the mountains, right on through Georgia and stuff, and it was … it was just… all it was to us is a thrill. It was a challenge and it were just: daring.”* * *
THE LAST OF THE BOOTLEGGERS: Reflections on the Golden Age of Moonshine in Georgia
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